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Is Joker 2 Using A 20-Year Old Cancelled Batman Idea?

Joker: Folie à Deux isn’t the first time DC has toyed with the idea of ​​making a musical superhero movie. Batman had almost the same treatment.

DC is coming Joker: Folie à Deux could recycle a 20 year old idea for a Batman musical. The sequel to . will be in June 2021 joker was announced that it was in development, continuing the story that Todd Phillips began in his self-contained universe outside of the faltering DCEU. It was confirmed that Joaquin Phoenix will return as Arthur Fleck, aka Joker, and Lady Gaga will be cast as Harley Quinn shortly after, with the film taking on a movie-musical style. However, this isn’t the first time Warner Bros. consider putting a musical spin on their classic superheroes.


Between 1998 and 2002, legendary music producer Jim Steinman worked on the adaptation of Batman for the Broadway stage. The New York Post reported that Tim Burton was hired to direct the musical because the project was as dark as his 1989 film, Batman. In the musical, songs like “Graveyard Shift,” “Cry to Heaven,” and “The Joker’s Song” would grace the stage with the caped crusader leading the chorus. Despite a version being completed in 2001 and an opening date set for 2005, the project never went out of production and was canceled in 2004. When the franchise took on a darker tone after Christopher Nolan’s start Dark Knight Trilogy with 2005’s Batman Beginsit became unlikely that a musical version of Batman would ever become a reality.

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Now, however, with the introduction of musical elements in the coming Joker: Folie à Deux and Lady Gaga’s casting, a Gotham musical looks like it’s on the way. This could also lead to the old ideas for a dark Batman musical being reworked and recycled to fit the gritty universe Phillips created in joker. Steinman described his original musical idea as: “very dark and gothic, but really very funny,” that’s something that can be brilliantly translated into Foil a Deux. Phillips has already built a grim version of Gotham City, and joker has already shown viewers how Phoenix can bring moments of comedy and lightness to his troubled character.

Joker 2 with musical moments would make it a better sequel (not worse)

Using musical elements in Joker: Folie à Deux could be the perfect choice for the sequel. Viewers have already seen the effects of Arthur Fleck’s mental illness in joker, his descent into madness is often told through completely made-up storylines and bizarre dance sequences. if Foil à Deux is to continue from where? joker if the sequences in the music go unnoticed, it would perfectly reflect the moments when Arthur loses his grip on reality, making these moments all the more dark and poignant while still being hugely entertaining. Joker: Folie à Deux can perfectly capture the essence of what Steinman originally wanted to do with the Batman musical, slightly rough, but fun at the core.

More information is still being confirmed about Joker: Folie à Deux, with cast announcements including Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Jacob Lofland, and the return of Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond to be revealed in September 2022. the growing franchise. Only time will tell what inspiration Joker: Folie à Deux will take (if any) from Steinman’s original Batman musical.

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